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Joshua Thomas
Sat, Feb 18, 2023 8:07 PM

Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms?

I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1)
Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can
vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary.

All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the
dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My
main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints,
like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require
some upgrades.

Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter
over the length!

Anyone have comments or experience?

Thanks in advance.

Joshua Thomas

My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com
Please update your information if you have not already done so.

Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms? I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1) Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary. All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints, like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require some upgrades. Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter over the length! Anyone have comments or experience? Thanks in advance. -- Joshua Thomas My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com Please update your information if you have not already done so.
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Calvin Holmes
Sat, Feb 18, 2023 8:46 PM

I’ve 3D printed a primary coil form for a VTTC. See attached. Wire is 12awg, OD is 1ft. I think the turns were spaced too much.

I ended up switching to PVC of smaller diameter. I still use(d) the separate feedback form you can see on top, albeit mostly out of convenience.

PLA has perfectly fine dielectric properties. Comparable to PVC (though keep in mind PLA will have air).

On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:07, Joshua Thomas joshuafthomas@gmail.com wrote:

Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms?

I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1)
Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can
vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary.

All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the
dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My
main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints,
like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require
some upgrades.

Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter
over the length!

Anyone have comments or experience?

Thanks in advance.

Joshua Thomas

My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com
Please update your information if you have not already done so.


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I’ve 3D printed a primary coil form for a VTTC. See attached. Wire is 12awg, OD is 1ft. I think the turns were spaced too much. I ended up switching to PVC of smaller diameter. I still use(d) the separate feedback form you can see on top, albeit mostly out of convenience. PLA has perfectly fine dielectric properties. Comparable to PVC (though keep in mind PLA will have air). > On Feb 18, 2023, at 13:07, Joshua Thomas <joshuafthomas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms? > > I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1) > Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can > vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary. > > All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the > dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My > main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints, > like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require > some upgrades. > > Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter > over the length! > > Anyone have comments or experience? > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Joshua Thomas > > My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com > Please update your information if you have not already done so. > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com
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Ian Gault
Sat, Feb 18, 2023 10:34 PM

Hey Joshua,

I have 3D printed many coil forms which was my main reason for buying a
3d printer.

Not sure what software you use, but Tinkercad is free online and has
worked well for simple designs for a complete 3D software beginner like
myself.

I have been using PETG a lot – seems a good all-rounder and works well
even for nested toroidal coil formers which are quite intricate. Not
perfect as the smaller wire guides can snap easily (as I found making
the center of spiral toroidal coils very difficult to complete
correctly…)

I’m now using PA12-CF Nylon filament for high temperature exposure –
has a warping temp of nearly 200C, and really strong. Working out great
so far on this printer (Prusa MK3S+).

Some toroidal coils are just beautiful to look at when finished, whilst
trying to figure out what they can actually be used for!

Cheers,

Ian.

Sent from [1]Mail for Windows

From: [2]Joshua Thomas
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:18 PM
To: [3]Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: [TCML] 3D printed coil forms

Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms?

I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there:
1)

Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD
can

vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary.

All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the

dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils.
My

main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D
prints,

like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require

some upgrades.

Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed
diameter

over the length!

Anyone have comments or experience?

Thanks in advance.

--

Joshua Thomas

My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com

Please update your information if you have not already done so.


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  2. mailto:joshuafthomas@gmail.com
  3. mailto:tcml@tcml.pupman.com
Hey Joshua, I have 3D printed many coil forms which was my main reason for buying a 3d printer. Not sure what software you use, but Tinkercad is free online and has worked well for simple designs for a complete 3D software beginner like myself. I have been using PETG a lot – seems a good all-rounder and works well even for nested toroidal coil formers which are quite intricate. Not perfect as the smaller wire guides can snap easily (as I found making the center of spiral toroidal coils very difficult to complete correctly…) I’m now using PA12-CF Nylon filament for high temperature exposure – has a warping temp of nearly 200C, and really strong. Working out great so far on this printer (Prusa MK3S+). Some toroidal coils are just beautiful to look at when finished, whilst trying to figure out what they can actually be used for! Cheers, Ian. Sent from [1]Mail for Windows From: [2]Joshua Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:18 PM To: [3]Tesla Coil Mailing List Subject: [TCML] 3D printed coil forms Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms? I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1) Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary. All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints, like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require some upgrades. Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter over the length! Anyone have comments or experience? Thanks in advance. -- Joshua Thomas My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com Please update your information if you have not already done so. _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. mailto:joshuafthomas@gmail.com 3. mailto:tcml@tcml.pupman.com
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Joshua Thomas
Sat, Feb 18, 2023 10:50 PM

Hey Ian,

Thanks for your experiences. I print PLA and PETG so it's good to know PETG
is possible.

Can you speak more about the nested toroidal coil formers? Are those meant
for primary coils?

Thank you,
Joshua

On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 5:39 PM Ian Gault iancgault@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Joshua,


I have 3D printed many coil forms which was my main reason for buying a
3d printer.


Not sure what software you use, but Tinkercad is free online and has
worked well for simple designs for a complete 3D software beginner like
myself.


I have been using PETG a lot – seems a good all-rounder and works well
even for nested toroidal coil formers which are quite intricate. Not
perfect as the smaller wire guides can snap easily (as I found making
the center of spiral toroidal coils very difficult to complete
correctly…)


I’m now using PA12-CF Nylon filament for high temperature exposure –
has a warping temp of nearly 200C, and really strong. Working out great
so far on this printer (Prusa MK3S+).


Some toroidal coils are just beautiful to look at when finished, whilst
trying to figure out what they can actually be used for!


Cheers,


Ian.



Sent from [1]Mail for Windows


From: [2]Joshua Thomas
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:18 PM
To: [3]Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: [TCML] 3D printed coil forms


Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms?


I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there:
1)

Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD
can

vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary.


All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the

dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils.
My

main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D
prints,

like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require

some upgrades.


Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed
diameter

over the length!


Anyone have comments or experience?


Thanks in advance.

--

Joshua Thomas


My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com

Please update your information if you have not already done so.

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Joshua Thomas

My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com
Please update your information if you have not already done so.

Hey Ian, Thanks for your experiences. I print PLA and PETG so it's good to know PETG is possible. Can you speak more about the nested toroidal coil formers? Are those meant for primary coils? Thank you, Joshua On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 5:39 PM Ian Gault <iancgault@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Joshua, > > > I have 3D printed many coil forms which was my main reason for buying a > 3d printer. > > > Not sure what software you use, but Tinkercad is free online and has > worked well for simple designs for a complete 3D software beginner like > myself. > > > I have been using PETG a lot – seems a good all-rounder and works well > even for nested toroidal coil formers which are quite intricate. Not > perfect as the smaller wire guides can snap easily (as I found making > the center of spiral toroidal coils very difficult to complete > correctly…) > > > I’m now using PA12-CF Nylon filament for high temperature exposure – > has a warping temp of nearly 200C, and really strong. Working out great > so far on this printer (Prusa MK3S+). > > > Some toroidal coils are just beautiful to look at when finished, whilst > trying to figure out what they can actually be used for! > > > Cheers, > > > Ian. > > > > Sent from [1]Mail for Windows > > > From: [2]Joshua Thomas > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 3:18 PM > To: [3]Tesla Coil Mailing List > Subject: [TCML] 3D printed coil forms > > > Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms? > > > I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: > 1) > > Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD > can > > vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary. > > > All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the > > dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. > My > > main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D > prints, > > like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require > > some upgrades. > > > Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed > diameter > > over the length! > > > Anyone have comments or experience? > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > Joshua Thomas > > > My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com > > Please update your information if you have not already done so. > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com > > References > > 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 > 2. mailto:joshuafthomas@gmail.com > 3. mailto:tcml@tcml.pupman.com > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com > -- Joshua Thomas My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com Please update your information if you have not already done so.
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Tony Fleming
Sun, Feb 19, 2023 1:15 AM

I made a small gig that wound the coil onto a PVC pipe and I had no trouble
with it at all!
Look at my video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNeixCUEF5Q&t=8s&ab_channel=TonyFleming
Anyone can print the parts and later I've added an electronic counter as
well.
The counter uses one magnet to trigger the full turn and despite the
inexpensive price, it works like a charm.
I bought something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/DIGITEN-Digital-0-99999-Proximity-Magnetic/dp/B01DNLRAUA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3OYABH3BFSX03&keywords=electronic+counter+with+sensor&qid=1676769278&sprefix=electronic+counter%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-3

On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 2:19 PM Joshua Thomas joshuafthomas@gmail.com
wrote:

Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms?

I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1)
Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can
vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary.

All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the
dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My
main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints,
like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require
some upgrades.

Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter
over the length!

Anyone have comments or experience?

Thanks in advance.

Joshua Thomas

My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com
Please update your information if you have not already done so.


Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com
To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com

I made a small gig that wound the coil onto a PVC pipe and I had no trouble with it at all! Look at my video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNeixCUEF5Q&t=8s&ab_channel=TonyFleming Anyone can print the parts and later I've added an electronic counter as well. The counter uses one magnet to trigger the full turn and despite the inexpensive price, it works like a charm. I bought something like this: https://www.amazon.com/DIGITEN-Digital-0-99999-Proximity-Magnetic/dp/B01DNLRAUA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3OYABH3BFSX03&keywords=electronic+counter+with+sensor&qid=1676769278&sprefix=electronic+counter%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-3 On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 2:19 PM Joshua Thomas <joshuafthomas@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone experimented with 3D printing coil forms? > > I’ve used the pvc pipe on the past, but there are a few issues there: 1) > Limited to particular diameters; 2) While ID is well-regulated, the OD can > vary and be out-of-round; 3) Cutting to size is necessary. > > All of these issues could be solved by 3D printing, limited only to the > dimensions of the printer. Better for SSTCs than big spark-gap coils. My > main concern is the dielectric strength of common materials in 3D prints, > like PLA. I can print PLA and PETG on my FDM printer. ABS would require > some upgrades. > > Also, you could do some really odd stuff, like coils that changed diameter > over the length! > > Anyone have comments or experience? > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Joshua Thomas > > My new email address is: joshuafthomas@gmail.com > Please update your information if you have not already done so. > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list -- tcml@tcml.pupman.com > To unsubscribe send an email to tcml-leave@tcml.pupman.com >